"ID Crimewatch"

This might be a little duplicative of another subforum here ... but it can be used as a place to post "sightings" of a scam ... without posting a defense or solution.
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:14 pm

by Sir Bedevere on Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:50 am
I get the impression that these people started out, possibly as "Western Medical", selling the legitimate products like knee braces they have on their site. And when they failed to get rich they branched out to into less-reputable products and services. The network of web sites they have looks as it it was thrown together bit by bit over a period of years without any overall planning or structure.

Their current business model seems to be "throw sh*t at the wall and hope something sticks".
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:15 pm

by Guest on Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:15 am
Sir B, ID Crimewatch just called my phone. I kept asking for "Dave Winters". Apparently there is "Dave Winters" there. Sent you a PM.
I can transcript some of the shill script later. I interrupted the "fronter" shill by asking for Dave's lawyer!
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:15 pm

by Sir Bedevere on Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:30 am
Guest wrote:
Sir B, ID Crimewatch just called my phone. I kept asking for "Dave Winters". Apparently there is "Dave Winters" there. Sent you a PM.
I can transcript some of the shill script later. I interrupted the "fronter" shill by asking for Dave's lawyer!
Interesting. If I recall correctly, just about everyone who has received a call from them reports Indian accents, so I wouldn't be surprised if the call center is overseas.
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:15 pm

by Guest on Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:37 am
The boiler-room shill may not have been East Indian. I am preparing to listen to the tape as soon a I get another recorder set up. I've run into this before- I get going on researching the recording and another shill calls in. Initial audio may reveal a Filipino accent, which will cause all hell to break lose, due to circumstances. (I know many, many, many Filipinos)

This main phone number reaches the boiler-room. 888-870-3426 I hear an Asian accent, and boiler-room chatter.
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:47 pm

by Guest on Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:32 am
Giving my own opinion- they are Filipino fronters, and they are NOT using robo-dialers. This one cold called.
What would give me that inclination?
Does Dave really want to play this “patty-cake” Filipino fronter game?

O.K. Filipinos in this immediate vicinity agree on the accent.
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:48 pm

by Tamianth on Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:31 pm
So your talking Philippines here? This wouldn't surprise me any.. I noted the fact that the past couple of years (or 3) with Koivet and forum spam, the ones that got past the front page & filters where all hand plumbed jobs and almost always, 99.9% where from the Philippines. So it wouldn't surprise me to see them in scam operations or telemarketing either.
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:48 pm

by Guest on Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:07 pm
@ Tamianth, Yup!
800Aux community; I have put to together some info to post on 800notes.
Any ideas adjustments, corrections, additions? Is it over the top?


Consumer Warning.
“I.D. Crimewatch” is preying on Elderly Consumers. (See shill script.)
We have just received a recorded transcript- “Dave Winters” daily harassment of American Consumers.
All Consumers that have been called, and all fronters that have been “unwittingly” hired to violate Federal Law- the info is pages back on this thread to begin lawsuit.

We have False Testimonials here on 800notes,
while admitting to violating DNC from a phony employee. Illegal.
We have foolish, untrained fronters, harassing our DNC phones. Illegal.
We have spoofed Caller Ids. Illegal.
We have a fraudulent attack on Senior Citizens. Illegal.
We have credit card laundering, credit card processing fraud. Illegal.
We have racketeering to promote a “free” service. Illegal.
We have violations of Utah State Corporation Commission Laws. Illegal.
We have making calls to other States as a NON-surety bonded operation.
What else?

Some of I.D. Crimewatch’s criminal script.
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(“Ring” to the intended elderly victims generic soundboard; “hello”)

“Hello”
(Strange electronic connection tone- then boiler-room sounds.)

“Yes, Hi Sir. My name is Amber, from I.D. Crime watch. How are you doing today?”

(“ok”)

“Alright, that’s great to hear. The purpose of my call, is, we are looking for those that might qualify in our free identity protection program.”

AND HERE IT COMES, FOLKES!!!

“So, Are you 50 years older, and above?” (AND above???)

(The Elderly intended victim asks: “Let me ask you, Is Dave there?”)

“Come again?”

(The fronter refuses to get “Dave” on the phone and hangs up.
And, so the criminal operation continues on preying, and attacking the Elderly Consumers of America)
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:50 pm

by Tamianth on Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:59 pm
Sounds good to me! :smileup:


by Guest on Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:13 pm
Done!


by Sir Bedevere on Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:43 pm
BTW: Try typing "ID Crimewatch" into Google. A week ago almost nothing even related turned up in the first two pages of results. Now the 800notes.com thread is the number one hit. :smileup:
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:50 pm

by Guest on Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:47 pm
Not sure if this will help, but when I point my browser to just http://192.41.94.149/ I get this:

http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/18/76/54/19/untitl10.png

Which shows me that they are indeed one in the same.


by Guest on Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:18 pm
HA! I just reported Dave the Dumb-ass all over the Facebook Utah News feeds.
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:51 pm

by Sir Bedevere on Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:25 am
Just in case, I've archived all six web sites on my hard drive:

www.idcrimewatch.com - ID Crime Watch
www.westernmedicalgroup.com - Western Medical Group
www.kmrmedical.com - KMR Medical
www.protectseniorid.com - Protect Senior ID or Senior Crime Watch
www.uslifecare.com - US Lifecare
www.seniorfirstmedical.com - Senior First Medical

I got the HTML, images and everything (not just screen grabs). I'd actually be surprised if the perps took any of them down or changed them significantly – these guys just don't seem organized enough (browsing through the sites certainly gives this impression). But better safe than sorry.
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