"ID Crimewatch"

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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:27 pm

by Sir Bedevere on Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:28 am
Web sites:
http://www.idcrimewatch.com - ID Crime Watch (site no longer on line)
http://www.protectseniorid.com - Protect Senior ID or Senior Crime Watch
http://www.westernmedicalgroup.com - Western Medical Group
http://www.kmrmedical.com - KMR Medical (site no longer on line)
http://www.uslifecare.com - US Lifecare
http://www.seniorfirstmedical.com - Senior First Medical

All 6 sites are hosted at 192.41.94.149 and all have domain registrations through GoDaddy using the Domains by Proxy service to conceal the name and address of the domain owner(s).

Phone numbers and threads:
214-390-2941 – http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-390-2941
312-436-0571 - http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-312-436-0571
313-879-5680 - http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-313-879-5680
401-354-7976 – http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-401-354-7976
404-446-1410 - http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-404-446-1410
415-363-9589 - http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-415-363-9589/10
504-208-5424 - http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-504-208-5424
617-671-0840 - http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-617-671-0840
631-419-7082 - http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-631-419-7082
713-997-8267 – http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-713-997-8267
714-551-6850 - http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-714-551-6850/3
720-452-5598 - http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-720-452-5598/6
813-321-4788 - http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-813-321-4788
908-818-0328 - http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-908-818-0328

Names they may have used:
Arizona Medical Supply
ID Crime Watch
ID Protect
ID Watch
KMR Medical
KPM Capital
Medical Pendant Billing
Protect Senior ID
Secure ID
Senior Crime Watch
Senior First Medical
US Lifecare
Western Medical Group

"ID Protect", "ID Watch" and "Secure ID" may be nothing more than names used in phone calls or spoofed into Caller ID, rather than names actually registered as businesses or even used on web sites.
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:27 pm

by Sir Bedevere on Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:31 am
Here's what we know about each "business":

Arizona Medical Supply

Web site: http://www.kmrmedical.com (192.41.94.149) — site no longer on line
Phone: 877-764-2642
Address: 831 East 340 South STE 130, American Fork, UT 84003

http://www.superpages.com/bp/American-F ... 439461.htm

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ID Crime Watch

Web site: http://www.idcrimewatch.com (192.41.94.149) — site no longer on line
Phone:
Address: 831 East 340 South, Suite 150, American Fork, UT 84003

http://www.whycall.me/908-818-0328.html
http://whocalledme.com/PhoneNumber/617-671-0840
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/3124360571

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ID Protect

Web site:
Phone:
Address:

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ID Watch

Web site:
Phone:
Address:

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KMR Medical

Web site: http://www.kmrmedical.com (192.41.94.149) — site no longer on line
Web site: http://www.westernmedicalgroup.com (192.41.94.149)
Phone: 877-764-2642
Address: 831 East 340 South STE 130, American Fork, UT 84003

"F" rating from the BBB:
http://www.bbb.org/utah/business-review ... t-22314342
The BBB lists Western Medical Supply, Western Medical Group, and KPM Capital as alternate business names.
(Curiously, the web site the BBB lists for KMR Medical is westernmedicalgroup.com rather than kmrmedical.com)
The BBB notes that there is an "alert" for this business.

The state of Utah business records web site says this business was dissolved and no longer exists as of 10/18/2013. New listing "Western Medical Group" became active on the same day!

KPM Capital became active on 08/14/2013 - according to Utah records they're doing business as "NU VISION".

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KPM Capital

Web site:
Phone:
Address: 831 East 340 South, Suite 150, American Fork, UT 84003

http://companies.findthecompany.com/l/2 ... an-Fork-UT
http://www.bizapedia.com/addresses/831- ... 84045.html
Two employees, $91,000 (claimed) annual sales.

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Medical Pendant Billing

Web site:
Phone:
Address: 831 East 340 South, Suite 150, American Fork, UT 84003

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Protect Senior ID

Web site: http://www.protectseniorid.com (192.41.94.149)
Phone:
Address: 831 East 340 South, Suite 150, American Fork, UT 84003

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Secure ID

Web site:
Phone:
Address:

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Senior Crime Watch

Web site: http://www.protectseniorid.com (192.41.94.149)
Phone:
Address: 831 East 340 South, Suite 150, American Fork, UT 84003

http://www.arizonadailyindependent.com/ ... atch-scam/
http://dailyjournalonline.com/news/loca ... 963f4.html

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Senior First Medical

Web site: http://www.seniorfirstmedical.com (192.41.94.149)
Phone: 888-886-1019
Address: 831 East 340 South, Suite 200, American Fork, UT 84003

And there's "F41th Walkers Ministries" that shows the same phone number (888-886-1019) as Senior First Medical. That could be a coincidence, with one entity inheriting the 800 number formerly assigned to the other... but "F41th Walkers Ministries" is/was in Abingdon, PA - where US Lifecare used to be (see below). That's one *very* big coincidence!
https://foursquare.com/v/f41th-walkers- ... 207ed0aeb7

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US Lifecare

Web site: http://www.uslifecare.com (192.41.94.149)
Phone: 888-868-9031
Address: 1863 Old York Road, Abington, PA 19001
Address: 831 East 340 South, American Fork, UT 84003

"F" rating from the BBB for a business called US Life Care in Pennsylvania:
http://www.bbb.org/washington-dc-easter ... -phone-pop
Both the Utah and Pennsylvania companies show the same 888-868-9031 phone number so it's pretty certain it's the same business. Looks like they moved.

http://companies.findthecompany.com/l/3 ... an-Fork-UT

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Western Medical Group

Web site: http://www.westernmedicalgroup.com (192.41.94.149)
Phone: 888-870-3426
Address:
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:28 pm

by CelticDragon on Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:04 pm
From 800notes-look who's mentioned! http://800notes.com/forum/ta-98e51297ce ... crimewatch

jesse replies to Sir Bedevere
3 min ago
copied from

http://complaintwire.org/complaint/oR9Q7QfOmQ ... kmr-medical-llc

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18 Mar 2014
Country: United States
Consumer Alert! “I.D. Crimewatch” is a nonexistent Utah shell company preying on Elderly Consumers. (See callers’ shill script.)The front company, “KMR Medical, LLC’s has a BBB F rating with a Consumer Red Alert! http://www.bbb.org/utah/business-reviews/medi ... k-ut-22314342We have just received audio transcript- “Dave Winters” daily harassment of American Consumers.All Consumers that have been called, the info is a few pages back on the below 800notes thread to begin lawsuit.List of charges;>We have False Testimonials on 800notes, while admitting to violating DNC as a phony employee.http://800notes.com/forum/ta-98e51297ce ... >Untrained personnel, harassing Consumer’s registered DNC phones. >Spoofed Caller ID’s. >Fraudulent attack on Senior Citizens. >Credit card laundering, credit card processing fraud. >Racketeering to promote a “free” service. >Violations of Utah State Corporation Commission Laws.>Making calls to other States as a NON-surety bonded operation.Anything else?Some of I.D. Crimewatch’s criminal audio script;.(“Ring” to the intended elderly victims soundboard; “hello”)“Hello”(Strange electronic connection tone- then boiler-room sounds.)“Yes, Hi Sir. My name is Amber, from I.D. Crime watch. How are you doing today?”(“ok”)“Alright, that’s great to hear. The purpose of my call, is, we are looking for those that might qualify in our free identity protection program.” AND HERE IT COMES, FOLKES!!!“So, Are you 50 years older, and above?” (AND above?)(The Elderly intended victim asks: “Is Dave there?”)“Come again?”The foolish fronter refuses to get “Dave” on the phone and hangs up. And, so the criminal operation continues on preying, and attacking the Elderly Consumers of America.
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:28 pm

by Tamianth on Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:54 pm
Another new number for ID crime watch.

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-216-301-2801
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:29 pm

by Sir Bedevere on Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:07 pm
As I predicted, they're put up a new site after taking down two others: http://secureidservice.com/

Same old, same old.
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:29 pm

by Sir Bedevere on Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:30 pm
And another: http://www.actionmedicalgroup.com/
An exact clone of the "Senior First Medical" site.
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:30 pm

by Tamianth on Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:10 pm
I'm betting they are keeping a eye on the thread at 800notes also. Lets see how fast they take these down! :evilyes:
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:30 pm

by Sir Bedevere on Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:48 pm
Tamianth wrote:
I'm betting they are keeping a eye on the thread at 800notes also. Lets how fast they take these down! :evilyes:

We'll see. I didn't mention the second one on 800notes, but that one sells "Migraine Relief, Scar Reduction and Topical Pain Cream" snake oil – no mention of the Medical Alert systems or ID Theft Protection schemes that seem to be their main line of business.
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:32 pm

by CelticDragon on Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:32 pm
Just posted http://800notes.com/forum/ta-9bc40e012f ... 8309286200
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Stick1314 replies to Sir Bedevere
8 min ago
Okay, If you don't mind I used your information to find the new information. I'll post all of what I've collected.

Business Name: ID Crimewatch

Amt. of employees (No confirmation): 2

Possible Employee Names: Unknown

Possible Business Aliases: Senior Crime Watch, ID Crime Watch, ID Protect, ID Watch, Protect Senior ID, US Lifecare, Secure ID, Arizona Medical Supply, KMR Medical LLC, KPM Capital, Medical Pendant Billing, Senior First Medical, Western Medical Group, Action Medical Group, KMR Medical Supply

KMR Medical Manager(s) (According to BBB.org): (Possibly the 2 employees mentioned above, but no confirmation as of this point in time) Mr. Ben George & Mr. Tim Watson

KMR Medical Supply Sales Manager: David Nolan

KMR Medical Supply CEO: Jody Rookstool

BBB Rating of KMR Medical: F

Reported annual sales: $91,000

Alternate Business Names (According to BBB): Western Medical Supply, Western Medical Group, KPM Capital LLC

Websites' IP address: 192.41.94.149 For all sites

Web Host info: C7 Data Centers in Lindon, Utah Abuse E-mail: POC@c7dc.com

Supposed Address: 831 East 340 South, Suite 150, American Fork, UT 84003

Address of Arizona Medical Supply: 831 East 340 South, Suite 130, American Fork, UT 84003

Websites: idcrimewatch.com (Taken down), westernmedicalgroup.com, kmrmedical.com (Taken down), protectseniorid.com, uslifecare.com, seniorfirstmedical.com, secureidservice.com, actionmedicalgroup.com

Possible Numbers (Toll Free): (According to website) 800-891-7058, 800-916-5529, 888-886-1019

Other Numbers: 1-617-671-0840 (Boston Area Code), 1-908-818-0328 (New Jersey Area Code), 1-504-208-5424 (New Orleans Area Code), 313-879-5680 (Michigan Area Code), 312-436-0571 (Chicago Area Code), 631-419-7082 (New York Area Code), 714-551-6850 (California Area Code), 415-363-9589 (California Area Code), 720-452-5598 (Colorado Area Code), 813-321-4788 (Florida Area Code), 404-446-1410 (Georgia Area Code), 401-354-7976 (Rhode Island Area Code), 214-390-2941 (Texas Area Code), 713-997-8267 (Texas Area Code), 312-596-1404 (Chicago Area Code), 727-827-8285 (Florida Area Code), 216-301-2801 (Ohio Area Code), 914-219-0093 (New York Area Code), 714-551-6924 (California Area Code), 773-897-5539 (Chicago Area Code)

NPI (National Provider Identifier) Number(s): (KMR Medical LLC) 1477828804 Enumeration Date: 03-19-12, (KMR Medical Supply) 1710233747 Enumeration Date: 07/27/12, (Arizona Medical Supply) 1326479494 Enumeration Date: 11-27-13

More Numbers: Main phone: 888-870-3426, Medical Products (braces, etc.): 866-922-5974, Medical alert: 888-808-4353, Identity Protection: 877-927-6536

Arizona Medical Supply Main Phone Number: 801-216-4395

KMR Medical Supply Main Phone Number: 801-692-1354

"Practice Fax": 888-933-1363

Numbers from BBB.org: 801-692-1056, 888-868-9031, 877-764-2642
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Re: "ID Crimewatch"

Post by Tamianth » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:33 pm

by Sir Bedevere on Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:33 pm
It seems that "Practice Fax" refers to a medical practice.

And a search on that number, 888-933-1363, led me to what may prove to be a *very* valuable source of information – hipaaspace.com
Apparently it's for tracking information about businesses that are required to follow HIPAA law. And it lists our friends KMR Medical Supply!
http://www.hipaaspace.com/Medical_Billi ... 233747.txt

There may be much to be learned from that web site!

Research continues..
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